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Post by Wesker_fan on Aug 2, 2008 22:32:15 GMT -5
You really can't understand what I said?
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Post by Abusive Owl Җ on Aug 2, 2008 22:37:16 GMT -5
YAR ENGRISH MAEKS NO SENSE.
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Post by The Angry Building on Aug 3, 2008 3:27:50 GMT -5
Since I haven't started a fight in a while, I think this will be fun.
First off Teh Chez, you're a douche. You come in here saying all plans people have are worthless.
Person A: "I'm going to hide"
Chez: "Guess what, you're dead!"
Person B: " I'm going to move to a less populated area"
Chez: "Too bad, you're dead!"
It's really easy to just come in here and burn down others plans when you don't have one of your own. From your "Third desk drawer down, under the box of .270 cartridges" it sounds like A: You wanna sound bad ass or B: You don't really have a plan and you just plan to bitch out and blow your brains all over the wall after writing a letter confessing your love for your neighbor.
Seems to me you've just read "The Zombie survival guide" one too many times, ( In before "I've never heard of that" or "That book is just for humor") and think you know how to survive. ( In before " I'm planning for the worst" or "I'm a survivalist" If you were you wouldn't be on a RE board)
Now I'm going to tear apart your "I've got money hidden" plan. Do you really think money is gonna be worth a damn when the world goes to shit?
"Oh I will just go SHOPPING!! I will have a glorious day trying on pretty dresses and flowery hats while the undead feast on the FLESH OF THE LIVING!!"
Business owners will probably be the first to die. They will play action hero and protect their investments until shit gets too sketchy, then it's all you can grab shopping. A shotgun only holds so many shells and if enough desperate people rush at the same time, which normally happens, the shooter is going down faster than they can fire.
The only thing money will be good for is paying the extremely gouged prices at the beginning of the incident. $100 for water, $500 for bread, stuff like that. Then it will become pretty toilet paper.
So looting wont be a problem in terms of " This is my store, go away!" It will get bad when the laws are thrown out the window. Steal what you want at the beginning then murder for what you need at the end.
As for my plan, I live in the mountains. I'm heading higher up where less people live, taking my 12 gauge and machete...oh wait, I'm probably already dead cause I didnt have Teh Uber planner holding my hand the entire time...
EDIT: Just wanna throw in that deciding until after the outbreak to run to the store is a bad idea. All those people with the same idea, all rushing in to loot, probably already infected, or possibly already turned.
Almost as bad an idea as hiding at the hospital. "But they have medical supplies!" Yea but it is also the first place someone that is injured will go. Hundreds of people all showing up at once, having to sit in the waiting room ( gotta love american health care...) letting the infection set in and turn them.
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Post by Sniper Fox on Aug 3, 2008 4:00:58 GMT -5
I was talking about barricading your basement. I didn't say anything about being out of the country. What I said applies to any area. It's only safer if you've actually got a place to go, you're actually welcome at said place (in other words under your control or the control of someone you trust with your life), and there is stuff you need that you are welcome to. Once again. Bad idea. Are you serious? How would I barricade myself in my basement? Simple, I'd barricade myself in my fucking basement. My house is full of shit so it wouldn't be hard. Must be a really bad idea, huh. Maybe I should just stand outside and let the zombies eat me, or try to get out of town while everyone else is doing the exact same thing. Actually scrap everything I've said so far. We should all listen to Chez cus he knows everything and we will all end up dead if we don't. |
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Post by The Angry Building on Aug 3, 2008 4:53:55 GMT -5
I was talking about barricading your basement. I didn't say anything about being out of the country. What I said applies to any area. It's only safer if you've actually got a place to go, you're actually welcome at said place (in other words under your control or the control of someone you trust with your life), and there is stuff you need that you are welcome to. Once again. Bad idea. Are you serious? How would I barricade myself in my basement? Simple, I'd barricade myself in my fucking basement. My house is full of shit so it wouldn't be hard. Must be a really bad idea, huh. Maybe I should just stand outside and let the zombies eat me, or try to get out of town while everyone else is doing the exact same thing. Actually scrap everything I've said so far. We should all listen to Chez cus he knows everything and we will all end up dead if we don't. Don't you get it!? We are already dead! We just don't know it yet! Nothing we do is going to save us cause WE ARE ALREADY DEAD!! Chez has the answers, he's that kid in the 6th sense movie. He knows we are all dead and that's the only way he can tell us! We've been dead for a while we just don't realize it yet. Even in our spiritual states we come to a message board in hopes to connect with others, little did we know that everyone we spoke to IS ALREADY DEAD. The internet is full of already dead people. In fact, the entire world is dead. Except for Chez of course. He's got all the plan's, he's just too much of a cock to share them with anyone. Plan hoarder! |
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Post by Teh Chez on Aug 3, 2008 11:42:55 GMT -5
First off Teh Chez, you're a douche. You come in here saying all plans people have are worthless. Seems to me you've just read "The Zombie survival guide" one too many times, ( In before "I've never heard of that" or "That book is just for humor") and think you know how to survive. ( In before " I'm planning for the worst" or "I'm a survivalist" If you were you wouldn't be on a RE board) Now I'm going to tear apart your "I've got money hidden" plan. Do you really think money is gonna be worth a damn when the world goes to shit? Business owners will probably be the first to die. They will play action hero and protect their investments until shit gets too sketchy, then it's all you can grab shopping. A shotgun only holds so many shells and if enough desperate people rush at the same time, which normally happens, the shooter is going down faster than they can fire. The only thing money will be good for is paying the extremely gouged prices at the beginning of the incident. $100 for water, $500 for bread, stuff like that. Then it will become pretty toilet paper. As for my plan, I live in the mountains. I'm heading higher up where less people live, taking my 12 gauge and machete...[oh wait, I'm probably already dead cause I didnt have Teh Uber planner holding my hand the entire time... First off, I think you need to jumpstart your brain. Now I'm going to explain why. Cutting out the cheesy little dialogue that makes you look like an idiot. Read it, hated, and think anyone who cites Brooks is an idiot. Here's the thing though. World doesn't go to shit in a single day unless something so bad, something you or I can't even imagine, has happened which means we are all seriously f*cked no matter what is done. Other than that the first few days (one or two. three at most) are just going to pass almost like any other except for a spike in the crime rate, police activity, and other stuff associated with a viral outbreak. Probably. However the word highlighted in this is "probably". Sure they might die, but not right away. It's only going to take a few bodies to discourage an unruly mob. I don't care how "desperate" you try to make them seem. Hell, take the number of people who were killed in most of genocides that have taken place over the past century. Majority killed off even after it was pretty clear that said group of people were going to die. Small number were desperate enough to fight back. Uprising brutally crushed. If that arguement doesn't hold water I do remember a number of incidents taking place in public where did nothing even though they knew they were going to die. Only time I expect a majority to do anything when staring down the barrel of a gun is if it's in their home and their family or themselves are threated with death. Even then I don't expect a whole lot. The few who actually get brave enough to charge someone with a gun will be the first shot or be ones helping the business owner do the shooting. There is also the possibility of military (National Guard specifically) and Law Enforcement being sent in after things get hairy. Odds are (with all the nifty execuitive orders/emergency powers/whatknot that have sprung up since the 60s) they won't dispatched to protect anyone's business. They'll be sent to protect something that is interest of local/state/federal government's interest. Which will consist of fuel, medicine, firearms, water, food, and who knows what else. I've heard building materials could even be included. Even then it goes back to that group of desparate people you harp about. Probably going to be a few in the group who are desparate enough to stab you over a package of toilet paper. I'm sure you and a majority of other people don't think will happen to you. I'm sure you think that if someone does try it you'll handle the situation without a hitch. Yeah, one thing I keep in mind when dealing with situations that may require use of force is there are a whole lot of people out there who make me look like a kitten. Always possible that they might be in that group of "desparate people". Not to mention possibility of infected individuals moving into the area and possibly mingling with the crowd. That's bad no matter what kind of disease/virus we're dealing with. Nothing like running down to the local bodega to shove your way through the crowd to have someone cough in your face, spit in your eye, claw the hell out of your arm with bloody hands, and all that good stuff. So if you try it odds are you will die. Don't know how though. Might be trampled, shot, stabbed, or infected. Even if you're not infected or killed any injury (even minor) could be a death sentence. After all hospitals are out and you might not have access to proper medical attention. That's something isn't it? After all being gutshot with the lowly .22lr from a cheap pocket pistol in a situation where you cannot receive proper medical attention is about the same as getting AIDS. Goes back to how I said the first few days of the outbreak would go. By the way a store could charge that much right now, but we both know how that would go. If it gets that hairy the whole marital law thing kicks in. Which does extend to local businesses. Price controls, frozen wages, conscription, and all that good stuff. So looting wont be a problem in terms of " This is my store, go away!" It will get bad when the laws are thrown out the window. Steal what you want at the beginning then murder for what you need at the end. So yeah, it's still going to be a problem. If the laws are tossed out the window it's going to be even more of a problem. Say it if you like. You preach to me about tough talk? Maybe you should read your own post. To anyone else who considers looting or killing someone else because you failed to address your own needs... Let me share my favority quote from a real survivor/survivalist: When will you be traveling to said location? Then what do you do when you get there? Have you got enough food and water to sustain you during your stay up there? Are you even welcome in the location do you plan on traveling to? Will you have the means and ability to hold onto the area, keep what supplies you have, and protect yourself/family/friends/etc. from the threats you might face? Or is a joke because I have a hard time telling the difference between realistic plans and jokes when discussion disaster preparedness with a majority of people (you being one of them). Simple, I'd barricade myself in my fucking basement. My house is full of shit so it wouldn't be hard. Must be a really bad idea, huh. Maybe I should just stand outside and let the zombies eat me, or try to get out of town while everyone else is doing the exact same thing. It can be simple or it can't. If you want to take the throw sh*t in front of the doors and windows approach. Won't last long, might wear you out, and could result in injury. However I do have to admit it's better than nothing. If you don't have the materials on hand, don't know how to scavenge materials off of what you have, and don't know the basics of carpentry and use of tools it can be complicated. If you do it can be simple, what you build will last longer, and it won't wear you out. It won't negate the possibility of injury though. Could possibily result in worse injury which is why you should focus on safety and pay attention to what you're doing when using tools that could result in severe cuts/broken bones/etc. It's a bad idea if you don't know what you're doing or any other big issues you need to address. As for the traveling to small towns idea I would gladly explain why it is a bad idea if you'd like me to do so. By the way peoples. I'd gladly share my little plan. However I was asked where it was (so my response was a bit of a joke even though I do have a box of .270 cartridges in my desk drawer). Only I'm not going to share all the little details of my plan, because that is part of the plan. As for my acid tongue... Well... Fingers... It's how I always criticize someone's plan and try to learn a bit about the person. If they can't take it odds are they might not be able to take being dropped into the situation they're trying to plan for. So you've got three choices. Deal with it (you might learn something), drop out of the thread, or complain to the admin. Now if you're done with the bullsh*tting and personal insults what say ye? You really can't understand what I said? Your wording sucked and I failed English 1 twice back in high school.  |
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Post by Wesker_fan on Aug 3, 2008 12:41:57 GMT -5
Here's the thing though. World doesn't go to shit in a single day unless something so bad, something you or I can't even imagine, has happened which means we are all seriously f*cked no matter what is done. I don't know, maybe something like a situation where the dead were coming back to life and eating the living? |
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Post by Teh Chez on Aug 3, 2008 13:17:19 GMT -5
Not that bad actually. I'd put on the same level as civil unrest on a large scale with a mutated strain of a already nasty virus (something that there is no treatment for and always fatal) going around. What I'm talking about is less likely to happen. Something along the lines of a few countries nuking each other to hell and back. Of course it could happen now, but the scenario I'm thinking of was what everyone feared back when we had the old USSR.
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Post by Wesker_fan on Aug 3, 2008 13:37:27 GMT -5
I don't think people are as stable as you think.
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Post by Teh Chez on Aug 3, 2008 13:48:41 GMT -5
I don't think people are as stable as you think. I haven't seen any hints toward instability in the world. Just small conflicts in Africa and part of Asia. World powers? Just a little bickering and tough talk. Of course no one cares Africa, and Burma has pretty much drifted off the radar. I'm really know what is really going on in Georgia (the country). However I do know Russia is backing the opposing group for economic reasons. Which reminds me. One of the best ways to stay one step ahead of those brain eating zombies is the keep track of what's going on in the world. Specifically your part. Keeping track of other countries is a hobby. |
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Post by Ayen on Aug 3, 2008 15:28:30 GMT -5
How bad is said infection? I live in Kansas City, Kansas that's pretty big I have to say. And we live in a duplex and we're surrounded by other duplexes in the front and in the back. And if we wanted to take a car we only have one road to get out of that circle because we basically live in a dead end. Now if I was to assume all the duplexes around us now has zombies living in them in place of their normal selves and if they started sniffing around and smelled us I think we'd be dead our best bet would be to barricade everything.
We have no guns in this house, not one... The worst weapons we have in here are sharp kitchen knives and my brother real sword with a real sharp blade. I don't know what else we could use as a weapon the other three would probably be the brains anyway I'd just be the one freaking out to be honest... I wish we did have a gun because my mom is a crazy bullseye shooter thanks to being trained by her father who was a cop.
Meh... So yeah I for some reason see zombies coming from the front and zombies coming from the back then again I don't think zombies smell are that long distance so maybe they won't smell us stay away from the windows so they can't see us and maybe they'll go elsewhere. -.-
I'll admit right now I'd most likely be dead. More so if it fast running zombies...
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Post by Teh Chez on Aug 3, 2008 20:13:51 GMT -5
Little more information as to what you've got to work with please. Mkay. I've tried remember the list I learned from, but I can't remember everything exactly. So I'm going to wing and try to fill it in as best I can. 1) Don't panic and do crazy stuff. 2) Determine if there is an immediate threat to your safety (zombies and people like Mr. Towers). Then address that threat. 3) Locate your significant others and determine if there is an immediate threat to their safety. If there is get them to safety. 4) Gather what information you can before you act. Otherwise it's going to be the same as good intentions without proper information. A recipe for disaster. 5) Gather whoever you can count on to back you up along with what resources you have. 6) Analyze the event taking place with the information you have gathered. You need to know what you're dealing with, the size of the area with this problem, and how long it's probably going to last. Factoring in you and your own, the people backing you up, and the resources at your disposal. 7) Determine whether to stay at your present location or to leave for a different location. 8) Repeat steps 1-7. A majority of you assume that everyone won't be doing anything or will be incapable of doing anything. That's an assumption that will get you killed. If you choose to stay and you're concerned about the security of your home.... Evaluate and access all points of entry into your home. If you'd like to take it a step further do the same with all points of entry (room to room) inside your home as well. Doors and windows are a bit obvious. Take a look at them (and I mean really look at them) and just think about how they would hold up. If they don't look like they will hold up very well think about how you could make them do so. If you're leaving you need to know where you're going and exactly how you're going to get there. Then you need to know is if you'll actually be able to travel there and if you will be welcome at said location. Close knit rural population might not want potential sources of infection settling down in their neck of the woods. Then again some of them could be a really bad bunch who'd gladly take advantage of a group of outsiders if law and order breaks down. |
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Post by The Angry Building on Aug 3, 2008 22:35:20 GMT -5
Seems to me you've just read "The Zombie survival guide" one too many times, ( In before "I've never heard of that" or "That book is just for humor") Read it, hated, and think anyone who cites Brooks is an idiot. I would just like to say "Called it" and since you said that I proved my point and everything you said after this is void due to stupidity and predictablity To clairfy, I called that you would way something to the effect of "The book is dumb" in some way. |
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Post by Abusive Owl Җ on Aug 3, 2008 23:20:30 GMT -5
Close knit rural population might not want potential sources of infection settling down in their neck of the woods. Then again some of them could be a really bad bunch who'd gladly take advantage of a group of outsiders if law and order breaks down. |
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Post by The Angry Building on Aug 3, 2008 23:35:48 GMT -5
Hey! Stop using logic! By now you all know that you're already dead
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