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Post by Abusive Owl Җ on Aug 4, 2008 0:19:37 GMT -5
Hey! Stop using logic! By now you all know that you're already dead |
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Post by Wesker_fan on Aug 4, 2008 0:22:33 GMT -5
But you weren't a fool, you used logic! You're a fool for that.
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Post by The Angry Building on Aug 5, 2008 5:57:33 GMT -5
FYI, Dead, all of you
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Post by Deadeas on Aug 5, 2008 6:34:56 GMT -5
I'd cry.
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What?
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Post by Yellow Dot on Aug 5, 2008 9:14:29 GMT -5
Anyone who doesn't post a plan should be dead immediately. ;D
[Except for deadeas... he never knows what to do]
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Post by Deadeas on Aug 5, 2008 13:15:19 GMT -5
Is running around in circles, screaming "Brains!" the correct answer?
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Post by Teh Chez on Aug 5, 2008 14:07:10 GMT -5
I'm not half as prepared as I'd like to be. Won't be until a year or two later. Full preparation I'd say [unfortunately] thirty years starting..... Now.... However b*tching about time and money doesn't ever get anything done (unless you're trying to get rid of someone you don't want to talk to) so I'd just make due with what I've got. I'd stay put for the moment. I wouldn't try to run around with a broad sword slung across my back and rifle in hand trying to steal sh*t. Excellent way of getting shot (or arrested, both are bad). Doing that without trying to steal sh*t will result in the same thing. I highly doubt there will be an immediate threat to my safety considering my present location. If there was it wouldn't be something I couldn't handle on my own or with the help of a few friends. What I am going to do is try to gather as much information as possible on the situation where it may have taken place. Anybody with a brain should the same. Doesn't really matter how either. As long as it won't come back to bite you in the hindquarters. Turn on the television, break out the radio, browse the internet, shoot down carrier pidgeons, call up a few friends, etc. I’m going to try to find out if it has been contained, if it can be contained for a fairly good period of time, and what might be the next plan of action for the powers that be. If it hasn’t been contained, cannot be contained for a fairly good period of time, and the next plan of action taken by the powers that be is bringing in more personnel to expand the quarantine zone (which I may be in when they do) I’ll simply break out the map(s), make a few phone calls, and consider moving. I’ll have about 10-12 hours to move if I make said decision. I drift around a lot so I can count on at least a weeks worth of supplies, a few weapons/ammunition, and other equipment being where I left it. Looked after by those I trust of course. If it isn’t where I left it someone’s not going to like the little talk we’ll have. If it involves friends and family I'll do the same. Only with a few changes though. I need to know if they are okay and do have enough food/water/etc. to sustain them through the crisis. Defense isn't that much of an issue for either group.  If they don't I'll consider moving them out or moving what they need in. Now that's going to be the hardest part and it may very well end with me being killed (or detained, but it ends the same any way you look at it). Considering where I am and what I have available to me I'm staying right where I am. I've got enough food and water to sustain me for a few weeks. I've got a safe place to sleep that can easily be secured for protection against an angry mob or horde of brain eating zombies. I've got a few good friends (and part of their family) to back me up. So why would I leave? I might also take some of that "pretty toilet paper" and drop it on more supplies on day BEFORE it becomes "useless". If I did have to leave there are four other locations to fall back to that are within forty miles of my present location. Where in all of which I am welcome and a known trusted individual (not to mention known relation). Let's not forget that some stuff may be stashed at two of those places. I could say six other locations. However the other two are over a hundred and twenty miles away. Outside of family I won't be welcome and I am not a known trusted individual. You also forget to mention that, while not always often, people in rural close knit towns are more morally obligated, thus giving you a higher chance to interact, and even settle down with them. While they might (don't want to get into a little debate on morality) have a "moral obligation" to help others when things get really crazy (World going to hell in handbasket) they're more than likely only going to help their own. So unless you're a known relation, really good friend, or someone who has put yourself out on their behalf the best you could expect is a meal and/or place to stay for a night. Worst. Bullet and/or crappy funeral. Not something I'd want to gamble on. Especially since they might just adopt the kill on sight principle. If there are any signs of the virus being airborne I know I would. Also for the looting types. How much stuff would you need at the location you plan on running off to, how would you move it, and how do you store it? Lots of details please. |
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Post by The Angry Building on Aug 5, 2008 17:57:41 GMT -5
That's probably the funniest thing I've ever read.
You give the government too much credit. Haha, acting like they give a damn about the citizens!
"Ooooh perimeters! Containment!"
Like those fuckers would know what to look for
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Post by lucrecia on Aug 5, 2008 19:36:11 GMT -5
during a riot I would loot the pharmacy and the super market.. (my morals went down since I read death note) I would also take a radio with me for any news or any broadcast that anyone might make for help.learn how to hot wire a car. if I don't learn theses things I'll just learn on the fly! I'll also look for another survivors and meet in a barred warehouse. Yep. You're dead. Looting is always bad. Because if you try it odds are you're going to be shot by the business owner (if said businesses are privately owned by a person or family) or other people from the neighborhood. Why other people? That business is important to them. Goes back to a story a picked up from an older friend. Back during the 60s when all this radical change was going on an unsavory group decided they were going to burn down a local store as a political statement. The local yokels picked up the information somehow. This particular business was the only one around for about forty or fifty miles. So it was very important to people living in the area. There was no way they were going to let anything happen to it. So a few of them got together and sat outside waiting for said unsavory group to show up. Of course this being Georgia they didn't go unarmed. Any way the unsavory group got out with a few jerry cans of kerosine, look around, got back in their vehicle, and left. That's a very good idea. And that's a bad idea. I was talking about barricading your basement. I didn't say anything about being out of the country. What I said applies to any area. It's only safer if you've actually got a place to go, you're actually welcome at said place (in other words under your control or the control of someone you trust with your life), and there is stuff you need that you are welcome to. Once again. Bad idea. No one failed. Brainstorm. No one is a master of survival, especially in a situation that has never happened. So none of us know what to expect, and Resident Evil or any survival horror sites are going to tell you everything you need to know.
Sorry. No matter what kind of disaster you're faced with (zombies or no zombies) a lot of things do not change. If you attempt to loot and steal stuff chances are you die. If you attempt to do anything that results in contact with something under control of .gov you die. Travel to a place where you are not welcome, travel to a place where you cannot survive, try to make contact with other people (chances are...), make decisions [do stuff] without proper information/thought... All results in the same thing no matter what the disaster may be. Although with the second situation described there is less of a chance of dying. However there were a couple deaths (and a few cases of not so nice things happening) when people in New Orleans were forced to stay in that stadium. Can't remember the causes exactly. Heat stroke, dehydration, or something. HEY!! where's your "master plan" huh? wait.. you might come up dead too. |
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Post by The Angry Building on Aug 5, 2008 21:03:56 GMT -5
Yep. You're dead. Looting is always bad. Because if you try it odds are you're going to be shot by the business owner (if said businesses are privately owned by a person or family) or other people from the neighborhood. Why other people? That business is important to them. Goes back to a story a picked up from an older friend. Back during the 60s when all this radical change was going on an unsavory group decided they were going to burn down a local store as a political statement. The local yokels picked up the information somehow. This particular business was the only one around for about forty or fifty miles. So it was very important to people living in the area. There was no way they were going to let anything happen to it. So a few of them got together and sat outside waiting for said unsavory group to show up. Of course this being Georgia they didn't go unarmed. Any way the unsavory group got out with a few jerry cans of kerosine, look around, got back in their vehicle, and left. That's a very good idea. And that's a bad idea. I was talking about barricading your basement. I didn't say anything about being out of the country. What I said applies to any area. It's only safer if you've actually got a place to go, you're actually welcome at said place (in other words under your control or the control of someone you trust with your life), and there is stuff you need that you are welcome to. Once again. Bad idea. Sorry. No matter what kind of disaster you're faced with (zombies or no zombies) a lot of things do not change. If you attempt to loot and steal stuff chances are you die. If you attempt to do anything that results in contact with something under control of .gov you die. Travel to a place where you are not welcome, travel to a place where you cannot survive, try to make contact with other people (chances are...), make decisions [do stuff] without proper information/thought... All results in the same thing no matter what the disaster may be. Although with the second situation described there is less of a chance of dying. However there were a couple deaths (and a few cases of not so nice things happening) when people in New Orleans were forced to stay in that stadium. Can't remember the causes exactly. Heat stroke, dehydration, or something. HEY!! where's your "master plan" huh? wait.. you might come up dead too. That's just it, he doesn't have one. His master plan is to rely on others. He is going to rely on the "system" to cover his ass. He is going to rely on someone else to ensure his safety. While we are planning to get the hell out of dodge, he is planning to rally behind whatever force comes in to clean up the mess. Isn't New Orleans still all fucked up? |
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Post by Abusive Owl Җ on Aug 6, 2008 1:47:25 GMT -5
Although I agree that you should not rely on the government too much, they will still act in the best intrest in the nation, and the people. They will be morally, if not internationally obligated to help the citizens. (The UN looks down on governments that abandon their people.)
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Post by Ayen on Aug 6, 2008 20:34:22 GMT -5
Yeah I can't see the government not doing anything during a zombie outbreak. Send in the troops to kick some zombie asses please. o.o
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Post by Abusive Owl Җ on Aug 6, 2008 21:31:57 GMT -5
Anyone who doesn't post a plan should be dead immediately. ;D
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Post by Deadeas on Aug 8, 2008 16:45:37 GMT -5
Insane doesn't mean I'm not intelligent...After all, I did design a car that ran only on apples...or was that clowns?
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Post by Teh Chez on Aug 13, 2008 13:16:49 GMT -5
That's probably the funniest thing I've ever read. You give the government too much credit. Haha, acting like they give a damn about the citizens! "Ooooh perimeters! Containment!" Like those fuckers would know what to look for That's just it, he doesn't have one. His master plan is to rely on others. He is going to rely on the "system" to cover his ass. He is going to rely on someone else to ensure his safety. While we are planning to get the hell out of dodge, he is planning to rally behind whatever force comes in to clean up the mess. Isn't New Orleans still all fucked up?
Now if you choose to actually read it you may actually be able to post something useful. Would that be too hard for you to do?Although I agree that you should not rely on the government too much, they will still act in the best intrest in the nation, and the people. They will be morally, if not internationally obligated to help the citizens. (The UN looks down on governments that abandon their people.) Because one does not have a perfect plan, does not mean they are dead, it's called improvisation. There is no such thing as perfect, in the world we live in. Even if you came up with the best plan ever devised, all it would take to kill you is one zombie jumping out of the bushes, and mauling your ass.
However then it comes to situations where your life is on the line I'd change "a plan" to "a good plan". Definition of a good plan in the scenario we are discussing? One that doesn't put you in unnecessary danger or harm others who mean no harm.Now let's take a look at a few things...For those smash and grab types:
What do you get?
How much do you need to sustain you?
How do you transport it?
How do you store it?For the "get the hell out of dodge" types:
Where do you go?
Will you be able to travel freely?
Is the place you plan on traveling to under your control?
Is it under the control of someone you know and trust?
Will you actually be welcome there?
Can the area be brought under you control quickly with/without force?
Are there enough supplies/equipment there to sustain you during your stay?
If not, what do you take?
How do you transport it?Lots of details please. Now how about defending some posts with a rifle like Abusive Owl rather keep trying a failed scorched earth policy?You give him far too little credit. I mean, sure, the man is completely insane, but insane people have been known to be extremely resourceful. How else could they break out of straight jackets regularly? |
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If they don't I'll consider moving them out or moving what they need in. Now that's going to be the hardest part and it may very well end with me being killed (or detained, but it ends the same any way you look at it).
